Eugene and Charis talk about the cover story of the March 2020 issue of The Atlantic written by David Brooks titled “TheNuclear Family Was a Mistake”. They dive into the definitions and history of the American family and whether it’s possible to make a new family paradigm. They also discuss how the movie “Parasite” lead to restaurants deciding to offer jjapaguri (aka “ram-don”). 00:01:02 Nuclear family 00:31:43 Jjapaguri <a href="https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/">https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/</a> <a href="https://ny.eater.com/2020/3/6/21153398/jjapaguri-ram-don-specials-nyc-parasite">https://ny.eater.com/2020/3/6/21153398/jjapaguri-ram-don-specials-nyc-parasite</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis talk about the cover story of the March 2020 issue of The Atlantic written by David Brooks titled “TheNuclear Family Was a Mistake”. They dive into the definitions and history of the American family and whether it’s possible to make a new family paradigm. They also discuss how the movie “Parasite” lead to restaurants deciding to offer jjapaguri (aka “ram-don”). 00:01:02 Nuclear family 00:31:43 Jjapaguri https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/03/the-nuclear-family-was-a-mistake/605536/ https://ny.eater.com/2020/3/6/21153398/jjapaguri-ram-don-specials-nyc-parasite www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

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117: The nuclear family and jjapaguri (aka “ram-don”)

Charis and Eugene discuss a menswear sneaker made by Archibald London after consulting Styleforum extensively. They also talk about the launch of The Markup, a new media outlet investigating technology. 00:04:53 Participatory design 00:29:28 The Markup <a href="https://www.gq.com/story/archibald-london-crowdsourced-sneaker">https://www.gq.com/story/archibald-london-crowdsourced-sneaker</a> <a href="https://themarkup.org">https://themarkup.org</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene discuss a menswear sneaker made by Archibald London after consulting Styleforum extensively. They also talk about the launch of The Markup, a new media outlet investigating technology. 00:04:53 Participatory design 00:29:28 The Markup https://www.gq.com/story/archibald-london-crowdsourced-sneaker https://themarkup.org www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

116: Participatory design and the launch of The Markup

Eugene and Charis talk about Spotify’s recent acquisition of The Ringer and the effects of media consolidation. They also discuss a personal essay that describes the discomfort felt in hearing black music become the default choice for high end spaces and how black music is cherrypicked as being beneficial to commercial spaces. 00:01:52 Spotify and The Ringer 00:26:26 Black music <a href="https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/5/21124201/bill-simmons-the-ringer-spotify-acquistion-podcast-purchase">https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/5/21124201/bill-simmons-the-ringer-spotify-acquistion-podcast-purchase</a> <a href="https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/black-music-white-restaurants-gyms-shops.html">https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/black-music-white-restaurants-gyms-shops.html</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis talk about Spotify’s recent acquisition of The Ringer and the effects of media consolidation. They also discuss a personal essay that describes the discomfort felt in hearing black music become the default choice for high end spaces and how black music is cherrypicked as being beneficial to commercial spaces. 00:01:52 Spotify and The Ringer 00:26:26 Black music https://www.theverge.com/2020/2/5/21124201/bill-simmons-the-ringer-spotify-acquistion-podcast-purchase https://slate.com/culture/2020/01/black-music-white-restaurants-gyms-shops.html www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

115: Spotify acquires The Ringer and black music in white spaces

Charis and Eugene talk about the complex conversation surrounding “American Dirt” by Jeanine Cummins (a novel about a Mexican mom and her son fleeing for the United States) which revolves around the question of who should tell what stories. They also discuss the perception of waiting staff in restaurants and what the effects are of good service on dining experiences. 00:13:44 “American Dirt” 00:43:09 Good service <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/jan/15/restaurant-waiters-front-of-house-service-britain-respect">https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/jan/15/restaurant-waiters-front-of-house-service-britain-respect</a> <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/arts/american-dirt-jeanine-cummins.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/arts/american-dirt-jeanine-cummins.html</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene talk about the complex conversation surrounding “American Dirt” by Jeanine Cummins (a novel about a Mexican mom and her son fleeing for the United States) which revolves around the question of who should tell what stories. They also discuss the perception of waiting staff in restaurants and what the effects are of good service on dining experiences. 00:13:44 “American Dirt” 00:43:09 Good service https://www.theguardian.com/food/2020/jan/15/restaurant-waiters-front-of-house-service-britain-respect https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/25/arts/american-dirt-jeanine-cummins.html www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

114: “American Dirt” and giving good waiting staff respect

Eugene and Charis discuss what it means for podcasting that there were a record number of new podcasts launched in 2019. They also talk about Brian Phillips deciding to close his art and fashion public relations company Black Frame and the shift in fashion public relations as a whole. 00:04:34 New podcasts 00:19:57 Fashion PR <a href="http://www.insideradio.com/free/there-were-a-record-number-of-podcast-launches-in/article_c86c57e6-305c-11ea-866f-5fc96803d150.html">http://www.insideradio.com/free/there-were-a-record-number-of-podcast-launches-in/article_c86c57e6-305c-11ea-866f-5fc96803d150.html</a> <a href="https://www.voguebusiness.com/fashion/brian-phillips-closing-black-frame-major-shift-fashion-pr-kenzo-nike">https://www.voguebusiness.com/fashion/brian-phillips-closing-black-frame-major-shift-fashion-pr-kenzo-nike</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis discuss what it means for podcasting that there were a record number of new podcasts launched in 2019. They also talk about Brian Phillips deciding to close his art and fashion public relations company Black Frame and the shift in fashion public relations as a whole. 00:04:34 New podcasts 00:19:57 Fashion PR http://www.insideradio.com/free/there-were-a-record-number-of-podcast-launches-in/article_c86c57e6-305c-11ea-866f-5fc96803d150.html https://www.voguebusiness.com/fashion/brian-phillips-closing-black-frame-major-shift-fashion-pr-kenzo-nike www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

113: Record number of new podcasts in 2019 and the future of fashion PR

Charis and Eugene talk about how to form new habits and, specifically, how to maintain good financial habits. They also discuss the past decade in fashion, including the topics of media fragmentation, online fashion, and democracy in fashion. 00:03:25 New habits 00:22:49 Decade in fashion <a href="https://www.thecut.com/2019/12/how-to-budget-in-the-new-year.html">https://www.thecut.com/2019/12/how-to-budget-in-the-new-year.html</a> <a href="https://dieworkwear.com/post/189986615919/how-well-remember-this-decade">https://dieworkwear.com/post/189986615919/how-well-remember-this-decade</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene talk about how to form new habits and, specifically, how to maintain good financial habits. They also discuss the past decade in fashion, including the topics of media fragmentation, online fashion, and democracy in fashion. 00:03:25 New habits 00:22:49 Decade in fashion https://www.thecut.com/2019/12/how-to-budget-in-the-new-year.html https://dieworkwear.com/post/189986615919/how-well-remember-this-decade www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

112: Forming new habits and the decade in fashion

Eugene and Charis talk about the collaboration between Shawn Stussy and Kim Jones for Dior’s Pre-Fall 2020 collection. They also discuss “To Bring Back”, Charis’ new podcast, and air episode one. You can listen to “To Bring Back” on iTunes, Spotify, and your preferred podcast apps. 00:06:52 Shawn Stussy x Dior 00:37:03 To Bring Back <a href="https://www.gq.com/story/dior-stussy-collab-announcement">https://www.gq.com/story/dior-stussy-collab-announcement</a> <a href="http://tobringback.com">http://tobringback.com</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/to-bring-back/id1485009829">https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/to-bring-back/id1485009829</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis talk about the collaboration between Shawn Stussy and Kim Jones for Dior’s Pre-Fall 2020 collection. They also discuss “To Bring Back”, Charis’ new podcast, and air episode one. You can listen to “To Bring Back” on iTunes, Spotify, and your preferred podcast apps. 00:06:52 Shawn Stussy x Dior 00:37:03 To Bring Back https://www.gq.com/story/dior-stussy-collab-announcement http://tobringback.com https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/to-bring-back/id1485009829 www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

111: Shawn Stussy x Dior and Charis’ new podcast “To Bring Back”

Charis and Eugene talk about an article written by Alex Danco titled “Everything is Amazing, But Nothing is Ours” about how technology has evolved to be about access at the expense of ownership. They also discuss reseller platforms such as The RealReal and what their relationship is to the primary luxury market. 00:01:05 Nothing is ours 00:21:53 Reseller luxury 00:40:18 Banter <a href="https://alexdanco.com/2019/10/26/everything-is-amazing-but-nothing-is-ours/">https://alexdanco.com/2019/10/26/everything-is-amazing-but-nothing-is-ours/</a> <a href="https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-12/realreal-poshmark-other-resale-sites-are-good-even-for-gucci">https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-12/realreal-poshmark-other-resale-sites-are-good-even-for-gucci</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene talk about an article written by Alex Danco titled “Everything is Amazing, But Nothing is Ours” about how technology has evolved to be about access at the expense of ownership. They also discuss reseller platforms such as The RealReal and what their relationship is to the primary luxury market. 00:01:05 Nothing is ours 00:21:53 Reseller luxury 00:40:18 Banter https://alexdanco.com/2019/10/26/everything-is-amazing-but-nothing-is-ours/ https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2019-11-12/realreal-poshmark-other-resale-sites-are-good-even-for-gucci www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

110: Access instead of ownership and reseller luxury

Eugene and Charis talk about musical anhedonia, the condition where people feel no pleasure in music, and whether that has implications on the world of audio. They also discuss the anatomy of a TikTok hit and what kind of music goes viral on that platform. 00:00:55 Musical anhedonia 00:27:34 TikTok hits 00:41:19 Banter <a href="https://reallifemag.com/vox-populi/">https://reallifemag.com/vox-populi/</a> <a href="https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-anatomy-of-a-tiktok-hit/">https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-anatomy-of-a-tiktok-hit/</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis talk about musical anhedonia, the condition where people feel no pleasure in music, and whether that has implications on the world of audio. They also discuss the anatomy of a TikTok hit and what kind of music goes viral on that platform. 00:00:55 Musical anhedonia 00:27:34 TikTok hits 00:41:19 Banter https://reallifemag.com/vox-populi/ https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/the-anatomy-of-a-tiktok-hit/ www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

109: Feeling no pleasure in music and the anatomy of a TikTok hit

Charis and Eugene talk about Disney+ and Apple TV+, two new streaming services, launching with series that cost an unprecedented amount of money per episode to make. They also discuss tokenism: what it is, how to deal with it, and whether there are silver linings to it. 00:01:16 Streaming services 00:16:42 Tokenism 00:37:16 Banter <a href="https://qz.com/1735700/apple-and-disney-are-creating-an-explosion-of-tv-series-budgets/">https://qz.com/1735700/apple-and-disney-are-creating-an-explosion-of-tv-series-budgets/</a> <a href="https://qz.com/844918/with-the-crown-the-grand-tour-and-westworld-tv-shows-have-become-insanely-expensive/">https://qz.com/844918/with-the-crown-the-grand-tour-and-westworld-tv-shows-have-become-insanely-expensive/</a> <a href="https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/46571/1/how-to-deal-with-tokenism-as-an-artist-according-to-the-white-pube">https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/46571/1/how-to-deal-with-tokenism-as-an-artist-according-to-the-white-pube</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene talk about Disney+ and Apple TV+, two new streaming services, launching with series that cost an unprecedented amount of money per episode to make. They also discuss tokenism: what it is, how to deal with it, and whether there are silver linings to it. 00:01:16 Streaming services 00:16:42 Tokenism 00:37:16 Banter https://qz.com/1735700/apple-and-disney-are-creating-an-explosion-of-tv-series-budgets/ https://qz.com/844918/with-the-crown-the-grand-tour-and-westworld-tv-shows-have-become-insanely-expensive/ https://www.dazeddigital.com/art-photography/article/46571/1/how-to-deal-with-tokenism-as-an-artist-according-to-the-white-pube www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

108: Streaming services and tokenism

Eugene and Charis discuss why new technology is difficult to convince people to adopt. They also talk about the habits of the ultra wealthy as well as a new study that shows a key factor in becoming very rich is luck. 00:01:20 Ultra wealthy 00:27:22 New tech 00:44:45 Banter https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610395/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chance/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/style/rich-people-things.html https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/tech/ https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/10/17/18647521/capitalism-age-of-addiction-phone-david-courtwright www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis discuss why new technology is difficult to convince people to adopt. They also talk about the habits of the ultra wealthy as well as a new study that shows a key factor in becoming very rich is luck. 00:01:20 Ultra wealthy 00:27:22 New tech 00:44:45 Banter https://www.technologyreview.com/s/610395/if-youre-so-smart-why-arent-you-rich-turns-out-its-just-chance/ https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/17/style/rich-people-things.html https://www.collaborativefund.com/blog/tech/ https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/10/17/18647521/capitalism-age-of-addiction-phone-david-courtwright www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

107: New tech is a hard sell and rich people are really lucky

Charis and Eugene talk about TikTok hiring a law firm to advise them on their content moderation policies due to increasing scrutiny of the app. They also discuss Adobe being required to block Venezuelan users from their products due to the latest sanctions on the country. 00:01:24 TikTok 00:19:32 Adobe 00:31:54 Banter <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/15/tiktok-taps-corporate-law-firm-kl-gates-to-advise-on-its-u-s-content-moderation-policies/">https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/15/tiktok-taps-corporate-law-firm-kl-gates-to-advise-on-its-u-s-content-moderation-policies/</a> <a href="https://stratechery.com/2019/the-china-cultural-clash/">https://stratechery.com/2019/the-china-cultural-clash/</a> <a href="https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjmqj/venezuela-will-be-cut-off-from-adobe-products-because-of-trump-sanctions" rel="noreferrer nofollow noopener" target="_blank">https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjmqj/venezuela-will-be-cut-off-from-adobe-products-because-of-trump-sanctions</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene talk about TikTok hiring a law firm to advise them on their content moderation policies due to increasing scrutiny of the app. They also discuss Adobe being required to block Venezuelan users from their products due to the latest sanctions on the country. 00:01:24 TikTok 00:19:32 Adobe 00:31:54 Banter https://techcrunch.com/2019/10/15/tiktok-taps-corporate-law-firm-kl-gates-to-advise-on-its-u-s-content-moderation-policies/ https://stratechery.com/2019/the-china-cultural-clash/ https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjmqj/venezuela-will-be-cut-off-from-adobe-products-because-of-trump-sanctions www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

106: TikTok content moderation issues and Adobe blocks Venezuelan users

Eugene and Charis discuss Forever 21 filing for bankruptcy and the evolving role of shopping malls. They also talk about the monetization of esports apparel and the possibilities for brands within the gaming industry. 00:01:22 Forever 21 00:20:12 Esports apparel 00:40:15 Banter <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/29/business/forever-21-bankruptcy.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/29/business/forever-21-bankruptcy.html</a> <a href="https://hypebeast.com/2019/9/esports-apparel-fashion-adidas-ninja-nike">https://hypebeast.com/2019/9/esports-apparel-fashion-adidas-ninja-nike</a> <a href="www.MAEKAN.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis discuss Forever 21 filing for bankruptcy and the evolving role of shopping malls. They also talk about the monetization of esports apparel and the possibilities for brands within the gaming industry. 00:01:22 Forever 21 00:20:12 Esports apparel 00:40:15 Banter https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/29/business/forever-21-bankruptcy.html https://hypebeast.com/2019/9/esports-apparel-fashion-adidas-ninja-nike www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

105: Forever 21 bankruptcy and esports apparel monetization

Charis and Eugene talk about the 2019 MacArthur Grant winners and how money supports innovative work. They also discuss Greta Thunberg, LVMH’s Bernard Arnault’s comments about her, and the relationship between luxury and climate crisis activists. 00:01:11 The MacArthur Grant 00:21:48 Luxury and climate crisis 00:41:21 Banter Links <a href="https://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxury-environment/luxury-leader-lvmh-in-green-mode-laments-thunbergs-pessimism-idUSKBN1WA2AY">https://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxury-environment/luxury-leader-lvmh-in-green-mode-laments-thunbergs-pessimism-idUSKBN1WA2AY</a> <a href="https://www.businessinsider.com/macarthur-fellowship-genius-grant-winners-2019-9">https://www.businessinsider.com/macarthur-fellowship-genius-grant-winners-2019-9</a> <a href="www.maekan.com">www.maekan.com</a> --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Charis and Eugene talk about the 2019 MacArthur Grant winners and how money supports innovative work. They also discuss Greta Thunberg, LVMH’s Bernard Arnault’s comments about her, and the relationship between luxury and climate crisis activists. 00:01:11 The MacArthur Grant 00:21:48 Luxury and climate crisis 00:41:21 Banter Links https://www.reuters.com/article/us-luxury-environment/luxury-leader-lvmh-in-green-mode-laments-thunbergs-pessimism-idUSKBN1WA2AY https://www.businessinsider.com/macarthur-fellowship-genius-grant-winners-2019-9 www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

104: The MacArthur Grant and luxury’s position on climate crisis activism

Eugene and Charis talk about whether good grammar matters, especially when it comes to material written by southeast Asian influencers. They also discuss YouTube’s announcement regarding overhauling its verification program and then the quick walk-back of that announcement. 00:02:42 Influencer grammar 00:21:57 YouTube verification 00:43:15 Banter Links <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/style/influencer-grammar-watchdog-accounts-southeast-asia.html">https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/style/influencer-grammar-watchdog-accounts-southeast-asia.html</a> <a href="https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/19/youtube-overhauls-its-problematic-verification-program/">https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/19/youtube-overhauls-its-problematic-verification-program/</a> www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

Eugene and Charis talk about whether good grammar matters, especially when it comes to material written by southeast Asian influencers. They also discuss YouTube’s announcement regarding overhauling its verification program and then the quick walk-back of that announcement. 00:02:42 Influencer grammar 00:21:57 YouTube verification 00:43:15 Banter Links https://www.nytimes.com/2019/09/18/style/influencer-grammar-watchdog-accounts-southeast-asia.html https://techcrunch.com/2019/09/19/youtube-overhauls-its-problematic-verification-program/ www.maekan.com --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/maekanitup/message

103: Influencer grammar and YouTube verification

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